Thought, Provoked

This afternoon I was texting with a friend that Mina and I had been doing henna art on the night before. Our conversation eventually lapsed into distraction. In summary, she had recently converted religion, and as a consequence was having to give up her lust for women.

Of course, this strikes right into the very heart of my nature, and, I’m embarrassed to admit I almost immediately felt the need to challenge this. I know better than that, of course, and it’s really rude to take someone’s freshly minted religion and start scribbling on it with your own Sharpie. So, some apologies were warranted.

But, it also threw me into another world of thought, as I flashed back to when I was trying to cope with my own sexuality in a sex-free marriage. I was captive to a religious system that boxed sex away as “original sin.” It was for procreation only, and the fact that it resulted in orgasm was deeply complicated. Lust, of course, IS one of the seven deadly sins. Though I spent years denying it, fighting it, trying to expunge it from my spirit so I could be happy in my marriage. My marriage, of course, was a holy institution, and one i was committed to for life. I could also see how my lust was hurting my wife, when I would be feeling cranky from frustration, or downright hostile. At the same time, I was never comfortable with the turn a lot of people in my church had towards people who were gay. I will never forget my uncle telling me the Bible says we should stone the gay people because they worship a different god, or my cousins telling my sister she couldn’t “do” her black boyfriend at the time. None of that really suited my more tolerant nature.

I eventually realized that lust would never go away. So, once I accepted that the lust was an immutable part of who am I, just as gayness was unchangeable part of others, I had other questions to confront. Why did God make me want sex? Why put this thing in me that is unholy? Why make gay people?

When you stare into the abyss of realizing that Heaven has no place for you, you start facing other possibilities. Is God cruel, if He exists at all? There came a separate thought process that challenged God’s existence in my head (I officially describe myself as agnostic) but there was another distillation to be had as I started seeing the reactions of people as my divorce became public. I discovered how many people’s reactions were really reflections of their own relationships, and I began peeling back the shiny veneers of the relationships around me. There are so many people out there who are so miserable trying to fit in a role that defined for them. It’s sad, for me, to see people repressing themselves, or parts of themselves, because I always see the seeds of sadness being planted.

The psychological wringer that is the sexual closet is one of those inevitable, unstoppable machines you always wish you could pull someone out of, because you know, personally the hell they are careening into. I could see the joy people who finally leave the closet had, and I remember personally all the time I spent untying the knots I put in my own head. But what makes me angry, angry, was the realization that I had done all this self-flagellation against the person God made me to conform to the rules Man had written from very dark places in his own psyche. It was the same set of laws that had my uncle stoning gay people, and my cousins hiding from interracial desires.

I harbor a very deep seated skepticism of any rules regulating sexual behavior. I think, as I look at many rules putting strictures on people’s sexual behavior, it comes from protecting the discomfort of most uptight around us. What pains me is the idea that in this short, short slice of existence we are given in the sweep of eternity, that we are supposed to deny ourselves the true connections we can feel, that are as much a part of our spirit as our bones and muscles, that hurt no one, but warm everyone they touch, because someone a hundred years ago, or a thousand years ago, was uncomfortable with the idea that any sperm might go to waste, that any woman might not need a man, or that the world might proceed in a way that was not in his control.

My life is too short to yield to someone else’s thoughtless taboo any more.

But that’s my philosophy. Not yours. And, every once in a while, it’s good to open up that old chest in your mental attic, blow the dust off and see if it still makes sense. While I still like it for me, it’s MY philosophy, and mine only.

38 Responses to Thought, Provoked

  1. Mina says:

    “What pains me is the idea that in this short, short slice of existence we are given in the sweep of eternity, that we are supposed to deny ourselves the true connections we can feel, that are as much a part of our spirit as our bones and muscles, that hurt no one, but warm everyone they touch, because someone a hundred years ago, or a thousand years ago, was uncomfortable with the idea that any sperm might go to waste, that any woman might not need a man, or that the world might proceed in a way that was not in his control.

    really an amazing statement. So easy for you to write while I sit and watch Lady Gaga talk about her sexual freedom and freedom in music. It makes me want to just say “fuck it” this is who I am. I am mina and this is what I like to do and if you can’t handle it, then fine. I’m not living the rest of my very very very short life hiding from who I really am just to make everyone else a little less comfortable and a lot more happy.

    • Sylvanus says:

      Actually, this sentence was a struggle for me to write. Even if I don’t feel the need to confront everyone with the reality of my sexuality, I will not let them dictate what I do. I have only a tiny little life to live, and I want it to be happy and meaningful.

      Especially to you.

  2. Geeeeee says:

    This was an excellent, thought provoking post. I was especially taken by your last sentence: ”

    What pains me is the idea that in this short, short slice of existence we are given in the sweep of eternity, that we are supposed to deny ourselves the true connections we can feel, that are as much a part of our spirit as our bones and muscles, that hurt no one, but warm everyone they touch, because someone a hundred years ago, or a thousand years ago, was uncomfortable with the idea that any sperm might go to waste, that any woman might not need a man, or that the world might proceed in a way that was not in his control.”

    It was this idea that liberated me from my religious background and training. If there is a God (and I’m more an atheist than an agnostic) it makes NO sense that we would be created with natural desires and tendencies and preferences, and then have to deny them.

    Thanks for all the thought you put into this. Good post.

    • Sylvanus says:

      It just seems cruel, to me, to make people this way, and set them in these rules. And I wasn’t raised to believe in a cruel, hateful God. And if He is, then I’m not sure he’s worth the worship. But that’s not what I think.

  3. BobF says:

    Wonderfully thought provoking post Sylvanus. I am so happy to have stumbled into this grand world of people with such open attitudes and freely expressed thoughts about the importance of sex in our lives. Raised as a Catholic in the south, in the 50′s and 60′s (pre-hippie days), you can easily imagine the social restraints my life was under. I cannot agree with you more about how important is is for us all to be able to express of deepest feeling for one another, regardless of some arbitrary religious or social mores. As an studied anthropologist, however, I do recognize the “control” of sexual access is a very fundamental aspect of any social order…wish I understood better the reasons why, but it is certainly true.

    We live in interesting times when it comes to this topic. We can find folks of like mind and openly discuss it. We are able to reach across long distances in order to ‘touch’ someone.

    Mina has commented on some of my posts and on my story on RPD and has a few times mentioned your “sexless marriage” and how it can serve as a beacon to people like me who have squandered our sexuality for too many years and now wish only to find a true path towards fulfillment. I plan to follow your thoughts more carefully Sylvanus for you and Mina seem to have found a remarkable balance in your lives.

    HHNT and Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mina

  4. thepinkpoppet says:

    Not usually a woman of FEW words, but I can sum my thoughts all up in one–BRAVO!

  5. Heilan says:

    I still believe there is something up there, I got married in church, but, lets put it this way, I certainly have broken a few of the 10 comandments!!! I don’t agree with religion dictating what you can & can’t do sexually, surely we are able to make up our own minds as to what we want? Certainly no vicar, padre or father is gonna tell me what I can get up to!!

  6. viemoira says:

    Perhaps some have just evolved to a greater state of open-mindedness.

    • Sylvanus says:

      I hesitate to use the word “evolve.” it implies that I think I am farther ahead, and others are behind me. I don’t have that kind of certainty in my beliefs, which is why I go back up in the attic now and again to try stuff on and see how they fit.

  7. I, myself, identify as an atheist. Oddly, tomorrow I’m going to be posting on the book “God is Not Great,” as I’ve just started doing a monthly blog book club with friends, so I’ll be touching on religion as well.

    To me, everyone has a right to believe what they want to believe. The only time I have a problem with anyone else’s beliefs are when they are used to perpetuate hate and shame. For me, atheism is the only thing that makes sense, and that wasn’t a struggle for me. I didn’t grow up in a particularly religious house (we’re Jewish, by the way), but I’ve never had a problem deviating from the things I was taught. Going against the grain and doing my own thing always worked for me and felt right.

    I’m sad for your friend though, because her new religion forced her to give up something that was (and probably still is) a part of who she is. Fantastic post.

    • Sylvanus says:

      I think your last paragraph touches on exactly what about my conversation really resonated with me. I know how hard it is to try and sequester parts of your psyche, and moreover how outright painful it is to try to tear them away. An dead old man’s taboo is a lousy reason for such self-torture, in my mind.

      I envy your comfort with atheism, just as I envy the wholeness of other people’s faith. Certainty is a blanket whose comfort I’ve never enjoyed. I often wonder how different my life would be if my family were not as religious as I grew up. Your writing about yourself often gives me a lot to think about.

  8. puresecrets says:

    i’ve been brought up being told that the Bible was God’s word and we need to follow it verbatim. Trouble is, the Bible was written by Men when means as God states we are flawed therefore wouldn’t it be that the Bible must be flawed also? Same goes with religion, brought about by Man. By not believing in religion doesn’t mean one can not believe in God.

  9. Kai says:

    You’ve cracked open the door for me to see more of myself and clearer. Thank you as it feels good to remember that I’m not an only soul with all these feelings. I’m inspired to find the path for my happiness as I’m responsible for that.
    Thank you again.
    Kai

  10. Dawn says:

    I came across your blog just recently and I want to thank you for this post.

    I am one to struggle with my sexuality in the context of religiosity as well.

    I *like* my sexuality, and I was at a point where the guilt of it was killing me; and the lack of freedom to be who I am was killing me. Something had to give. I choose freedom.

    I wish more people could be exposed to an open belief like this, I wish people could know the freedom they have instead of trying to be something they aren’t.

    Thank you for your blog, and I look forward to exploring more.

    Dawn.

  11. Kyle says:

    ” I discovered how many people’s reactions were really reflections of their own relationships” that is SO true.. I think for some people, maybe, watching others succeed in enjoying their lives is an almost intolerable challenge. ‘Wait, if they can have a good time flouting all the rules.. that means I probably can, too. That means I might not be trapped in this unhappy pit of misery I call life.. but I would have to flout the rules, too, and that’s way too much struggle and work, so instead, I’m going to criticize them and pull them down into the misery pit with me’

    cuz you know how misery loves company

    Glad you worked your way through all that and came out on the otherside.. rock on.

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  17. lostgirley says:

    “There are so many people out there who are so miserable trying to fit in a role that defined for them. It’s sad, for me, to see people repressing themselves, or parts of themselves, because I always see the seeds of sadness being planted.

    The psychological wringer that is the sexual closet is one of those inevitable, unstoppable machines you always wish you could pull someone out of, because you know, personally the hell they are careening into. I could see the joy people who finally leave the closet had, and I remember personally all the time I spent untying the knots I put in my own head.”

    *huge hugs* I feel like I should be saying something here. But I don’t know. I am plumbing my own depths of confusion, but when there are innocents involved. *sigh* *hugs again*

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