So what is a Dominant to do? Your sub writes a long, searingly honest post about her deepest fantasies, and you’re not in them. Particularly gnawing at me, as she talk about the theoretical pure dominant, was this passage:
Would he/she push me the way I need to be? Would he/she send me to the edge and push me even farther? Would he/she punish me for not doing as I’m told? Would he/she follow through on every desire no matter how dark they may be for me?
In some ways, it is impossible for me not to read a criticisms in these words. At the same time, the things that hurts the most, is the use of the word need. A need is not being met. It’s a pretty stinging thought. I know Mina took the time to write an additional comment, largely for my own sake, about what this post meant, about how this is a not a desire necessarily meant to be fulfilled, but at the same time, she reaching out for a need.
At the moment the post was written, and I was the first to read, I wrote my own comment, trying to get a sense of stability. We certainly talked about it that night, with a conversation that seemed to end on an ellipsis. I was surprised by her assumption that my fantasy life fixates on having a complimentary version of her own, on having “pure sub” of mine, when in fact I run in the opposite direction, if not the opposite extreme. In my case, that is not where my mind goes.
I lapsed a bit into explaining my personality. I am the type of person who likes to be really good at a lot of things, but I don’t really feel the need to be an expert at them. I prefer Renaissance Man as a kidn description, though “jack of all trades, master of none” is probably more apt. I enjoy my dominance, and any sex I have will have that flavor to it. I enjoy spanking her, I enjoy tying her up, and I enjoy them on their own. But, I am not, by nature, a pure dominant. I have to live with the things the dominant does the morning after. And in those moments, where she is obviously curling up, and obviously not happy with what is happening, I see the woman I love, who will still need to feel that love, instead of a bratty submissive in need of discipline.
My reactions the following morning were all over the place. I wanted to sulk. I wanted to give her the first caning of her life, and making sure that it fixated on the small of her back till it bled. I wanted to her to have a wound, not just a bruise, to last through her procedure next week, so that when she is lying on the table she will have that ache to concentrate on instead of what the doctors are doing. I wanted to beat this attitude out of her. But what was that, if not a reaction to her post? How is that really setting the table, and being the Dominant?
And then I think of the longer view, and of the interlopers who have crept into our life through the back door on Twitter, or email, or chat. Like C, like S, like Gabriel, who is no longer in our life. I see this need she articulated subconsciously reaching out, finding people who can give her that unfiltered Dominance. I think of her self-flagellation once she gets caught, and how she wonders out loud why she sabotages her relationships. I also wonder if this what our whole life has in store, peaceable life punctuated by bitter disappointments, and dark secrets being revealed.
But then, what if this is merely a way to provoke the Dominant? When she took her public collar off, she was rewarded with a brutal cropping. Even then, though, I was deeply conflicted administering it. The human wanted to reach out, to understand what was wrong, what I was failing to do, and the Dominant simply saw a submissive who needed discipline. That day, the Dominant won out, and I labored through the doubts tearing me up. I remember reading her post at her disappointment that her submission was being reduced to pain, and how it was about more than that. I tried, in the future, to focus on servitude more. I bought more weapons, and I have developed a great fondness for bondage tape, in fact.
But, in the end, I am what I am. I am someone who treasures the woman first. I read the work of other Dominants online, the ones who really push their subs, and I find myself repelled, not by their actions, but by their psychology. There is a mix between de-humanization and compartmentalization that my brain cannot comprehend. I can’t separate out the human from the submissive, and I cannot shut off my conscience and simply torture someone, nor can I find the desire to do so. I am not struggling with dark desires inside me, I am struggling with their absence.
There are things that I simply don’t crave. I don’t crave her ass. I’ve had it, and to me, anal sex is more about proving a point than that it is something I have a special enjoyment of. I don’t enjoy her humiliation. I don’t enjoy the things I think of as mine being shared with another. In the end, I cannot change the essence of my nature, and nor do I want to.
So, instead, I sit with an unsolvable problem. I envy her place in this in a lot of ways. I think it would be much easier to be the submissive, and simply have to not say no. It is a desperate high-wire act to be a dominant, to have to answer for her well-being, your satisfaction, and why the ideas were even in your head, and why they appealed to you. There is that confidence that you know what you are doing, and that ever-present risk of going too far, or getting that sarcastic snort of “Really? You want that?”. It always seems easier to be the one who just doesn’t say no.
When my fantasies center more on someone sexually aggressive, or who initiates the action with me, that is something she can easily fulfill, if she chooses, and something I could not fulfill with someone else, without devoting a lot of energy elsewhere. When her fantasies center on a ruthless Dominant, it is not something I can fulfill, because I have hit my limit, and I think she could more easily fulfill with someone else.
So what’s my confession?
That I am scared.
As a man, as dominant, as a fiancee, as everything I am, I am afraid to lose it all. I see danger in so many places, and I feel vulnerable. I feel threatened by her desires that I can’t fill, and threatened by what seems a world full of predators who would happily want to step in for me. I am afraid of the day the guy who is better than me finally comes along. I react with gut-twisting terror as other people clinically dissect our situation, and determine that, yep, she would need a proper dom to really fill these shadowy needs. I can see that I am not enough.
I make friends with the fear. It is part of me, it is part of what drives me. The fear will always be a part of me, as much as the love and the hope. After all, if I were not afraid to lose what I have, would it be worth having?














Some things are better left unsaid. It was a mistake to post my confession following my theory. But even more so than that, i made the mistake of saying these things are my desires. Reflecting on that now, it is not a desire. It is not something I think about and obsess over. It is not something that will leave me unhappy if never fulfilled. It is merely a fantasy. We all have them . Being dominated by a Dominant whom all I am is a submissive to, is nothing more than a fantasy. A simple curiosity as to what is that like. It’s a “one night stand” kind of fantasy. Something good for one taste and that’s it.
How can you not think that my deepest fantasies do not involve you? Do you not believe that I would want all of these things from you? Because I do. I do not hunger for another. It’s your touch I want, your love I need. My deepest fantasies always have you in my mind… always.
When I wrote the word “need” this is what i meant from it. That I can be quite bratty and quite unwilling. I am not expressing a need that needs to be fulfilled but rather that I need to be pushed. That I need to be pushed and disciplined in order to be a good submissive.
I love the Dominant that you are. After writing what I wrote and reading the comments from others, I have a better sense of what I have. I love you just the way you are and I don’t want that to change.
When you told me last night that your fantasies centered around a woman being sexually aggressive with you.. do you not think for one second that I would feel disappointed? Just like you feel you have let me down by not being the Dominant I fantasize about, I feel the same way about not being the woman you fantasize about. It is true that being submissive is my nature. I do not often initiate things, but there have been times that I have, we both know this. I obviously need to step up more often and take that role of being the woman on the prowl and treat you with all the wonderful things you have bestowed on me.
It’s funny how you envy my place in all this. That I am simply just here to not say no. I have been thinking about that too. Thinking about how I really never do say no to you. I have been thinking a lot more about expressing more openly how I feel. Of actually saying no i don’t want to when I am not feeling it. Of course, this is just me being a brat. I don’t actually want nothing to happen.
Though it is true that something is probably not worth having if you are not afraid to lose it… you do not need to be afraid here. I have spent far too long in my life and far too many wasted years on evil boyfriends to want to lose you now. I have waited my adult life for you. I don’t intend on letting you disappear. At the same time, there isn’t a day that passes that I don’t worry about losing you. I do everyday. My fear comes up every time I see i could possibly be failing as a good fiancee.
I do not think you need to worry about such things. I have a much better understanding about your dominance and where you are coming from. I am getting a new perspective. My fantasy about being with a Dominant who is only there to dominate.. is just that.. a fantasy and you know me and fantasies… they come and go so quickly. It’s just the gemini in me.
I love you.
Some things are better left unsaid.
Yes, but those are things like, “Wow, your toupee looks incredibly fake,” or “Are you SURE you’re not pregnant?” Not what you wrote. I don’t think you should disown it, or try to back off of what it was. Your words rang very true, and I think they do reflect an underlying reality.
I think, to some extent, fantasy life always has to focus on what we don’t have in our life. If it didn’t, it wouldn’t really be a fantasy, would it? There always has to be an understanding, at some level, that the fantasies aren’t going to fixate on the same person. If they do, that’s not a bad thing, but if they don’t, that’s not, either. What I wonder about is when the fantasies focus on things that we can’t give.
When I wrote the word “need” this is what i meant from it. That I can be quite bratty and quite unwilling. I am not expressing a need that needs to be fulfilled but rather that I need to be pushed. That I need to be pushed and disciplined in order to be a good submissive.
And I think the same concept still persists, that there is a need going empty. I understand your meaning of it, but the point remains the same. On one hand, you don’t act like a brat around me, but then, on the other hand, I would not respond to a brat in the right way. I would step back to the emotional mode, rather than plunging ahead as a Dominant. And there lies the “chicken and the egg” problem.
When you told me last night that your fantasies centered around a woman being sexually aggressive with you.. do you not think for one second that I would feel disappointed? Just like you feel you have let me down by not being the Dominant I fantasize about, I feel the same way about not being the woman you fantasize about.
To be totally honest, there were a lot of things to react to in telling you that, and I honestly didn’t know what would be first. Again, I think we have to accept that fantasy life has be to different than real life, just as a starting point. But I think there is a parallel between us here. I have never held the absence of sexual aggression against you, any more than I think you have held the absence of ruthless Dominance against me. I am obviously extremely happy with the woman that you are, that I would venture into a marriage with you, given my history with that enterprise. It’s a wonder then, to figure out what expectations we do hold of each other.
But then, that goes back to the fact that we are both people who choose to treat those we love with generosity, and answer troubles by giving and re-investing, rather than by pulling back and waiting and seeing. And I think that reflects in our fears as well, and how we both fear to lose one another. We both spend our time trying to make sure we are doing enough for the other. And, in a lot of ways that is tremendously loving, and why we have both had the misfortune to be taken advantage of in our past.
My fantasy about being with a Dominant who is only there to dominate.. is just that.. a fantasy and you know me and fantasies… they come and go so quickly. It’s just the gemini in me.
You know me. I never want to be dismissive of anything. I don’t like to wave my hand and say anything doesn’t mean something, and you certainly wouldn’t allow that of me. I find that very endearing, actually.
The things we feel mean things to each other, and they are going to have effects. If I wake up one morning fantasizing a tall Brazilian blonde with gigantic fake breasts, that will affect you. Fortunately, my desires don’t typically work that way, since i tend to fixate so heavily on a person’s mind. (And that is why my fantasies focus on what a person does, rather than what they look like, I suppose.) When you brings someone in so close, and they bring you in close as well, your thoughts aren’t really yours alone anymore. Just because the effects aren’t always pleasant, it doesn’t make the thoughts wrong. Their expression is a way relationships grow, and people grow.
I worry that the lesson you will take from this is that you shouldn’t have said anything. I hope that’s not the case. In our time together, honesty has always made us stronger, and truth has always brought us closer, even when it wasn’t pleasant.
We both fear to lose, because we know what we would be missing. And that is nucleus of a very very good thing.
I love you, too.
Oh my!! I have tears welling up here!! What wonderful private, thought provoking posts. It makes me feel as if I have stumbled into a private part of your life.
The exchange between the two of you is beautiful. It really shows how much you care about it each other and the process of working things out. It’s wonderful that Mina was able to speak up and that you’ve both been able to discuss this. I agree with Sylvanus that Mina shouldn’t keep quiet in the future. I think that this is something that’s hard for both of you, but when it’s all said and done, you’ll be closer and happier. I certainly don’t have answers for you, but it looks like the honesty on both of your parts is helping to move you to a solution that works for both of you, even if it’s just a better understanding of each other.
That both of you are so concerned about what the other wants and/or needs, is very telling of a good, GROWING relationship. You want and need to learn about each other. You both have the desire to advance your D/s pairing in both directions. That you are capable of such strong emotions for the other makes me envy you.
Something that my Master and I just came up with was that he gave me a word that’s essentially the anti-safeword. It means either that I’m okay and he doesn’t need to pull back or that I’m asking for more, even if I’m outwardly upset. The idea is that he’ll then be able to push me without worrying if I’m okay. Perhaps this can help the two of you?
Sylvanus,
I just commented on Mina’s post, stating how it could’ve so easily been written by me.
Well, what you just expressed here, could have been written by my husband. He has expressed to me some of the same concerns about us that you have shared about you and Mina.
Now, this is to both of you ~~ one thing I know, whether I live by it all the time or not, is that life is about balance; and when you’re in a serious, committed, loving relationship, whether or not D/s is involved, there will often be a struggle to find the balance between the wants/needs/desires of the people involved. It can be painful working out that balance; it takes communication, understanding, hard work, but in the long run it is so worth it. And living with that balance is cyclical ~~ sometimes it is easy to find and maintain, other times, well, you know how that is, nothing seems to work, etc.
We just went through are own struggle last weekend where we had to rehash, re-explore, explain again what we each wanted in our relationship and what our fears were. It was painful, but now we are back to our sweet spot.
Thoughts, fantasies, doubts, fears ~~ they all pop up from time to time. You sharing them on your blog has, I hope, helped you two, has strenghtened your relationship.
Thank you for sharing.
Robin
Heilan
That is very much the nature of our blog. There are times we share things a little closer to our heart than others, and this was one of them.
Meta
I am hoping that exposing this process for us will be good not just for the two of us, but our readers. I like to think I am understood. I like the idea of an anti-safeword, but I am not sure that is necessarily compatible with Mina’s personality.
nitebyrd
These emotions were not come by easily. We have fought for them, and talked our to them, and been through a lot, together, to be here. Mina has supported me through many tough times, and I like to think I have done the same, and we value one another deeply for that.
Robin
We have found things far more peaceful since this post. I have swung a little more to the Dominance lately, and we have enjoyed it. There are times like these where we do have to really think about things, and consider our positions, and make decisions about where we want to go.
we appreciate very much the thought that went into both of your comments. It means a lot to see something we say resonate with someone, it helps build a sense of community, and that we are not alone. We see a lot of D/s relationships with very short lives, and it means a lot to hear from people who have the same struggles, and remain happy together. It was difficult at times to read some of your comments, because they struck very near my own heart as well, but it does make me smile to see where you two are at, and it gives us hope.
Thank you.